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This just happened to be the time when BW announced it was about to purchase a new generation of work boats to met the requirements it thought neccessary for its staff.
Thus we approached BW HQ in Birmingham and not surprisingly at first they could not place the boat, but very soon we where in contact with local staff who knew the boat.
The identity of the boat was found having had a BW number of ZZ 80369 and being described as a dumb flat. It is thought that she was built at the now closed BW work shops at Goole? although this and a date of build has not to been verified.
The boat if obtained would need to be taken to Hawne Basin and pulled out of the water.
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Our friends at Hawne where contacted and the plan was seen to be very possible so at this time we decided to take Phoenix down to Coombeswood and pull her out of the water and give her a well earned paint, just in case any of us didn't have anything too do just before Christmas.
Now it would make sense to pull both boats down to Hawne at the same time, So it was decided to approach BW and see if they would allow us to pump all the water out of the new (old)boat and then take her to Hawne for a closer inspection, prior to any exchange of ownership.
B.W agreed, so on Thursday 8th December 2005 the boat was dragged along the Tatbank and emptied of rubbish and pumped out.
It's amasing the amount of water such a boat can hold, the 240 volt pump took about one hour to complete the job
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We then set off, destination Hawne basin, the two boats would just fit in the top lock, but when we emptied the lock the bottom gate would not open, the boats being to long.
Three so called boaters Jeff Barley, John Edmonds and Phil Clayton official press release read that we just tried to see if the two boats would go into a lock together without any modification. But really we cannot added up to 70 or rather failing to notice the bottom gate opens in wards, how long have we been boating on the BCN?
Anyway we started again, bow hauling the new boat down the locks after Phoenix. At Oldbury we set off for Brades and the staircase locks onto the main line into the Netherton tunnel, Dudley No 2 and Hawne Basin. Leaving the boats next to the slip ready for Phoenix to be pulled out of the water on Friday 9th December.
The new boat was now in the right place for a further inspection to finalise the plans we have for her when the paperwork re ownership is finalised
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The practicalities of the job were discussed with Tony Friar at the basin who builds the odd boat, and seemed to be very possible.
As to who was going to do most of the work, well being semi retired, having a boat at Hawne and as most of this was my idea anyway I Jeff Barley stepped forward (Must stop doing that). Tony Friar stated he would donate some of his time and expertise to the project and others stated they would look in from time to time.
It was then thought that the boat could be made to fit onto both our 'Phoenix' and 'Hawne': Coombeswood Canal Trusts Boat based at the basin.
Hawne operates mainly on the Dudley No 2 Canal, where there are no locks, so the fact she is a bit longer than Phoenix would not matter or limit her use of the boat. So a joint venture was floated if you will forgive the pun.
The design would remain the same for both boats, but with some sort of bumper or pads being added to the back of the boat, so that both boats would not need special fenders.
On Friday 9th December 2005 Phoenix was pulled out of the water for her make over, and provisional dates in January pencilled in for the butty.
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Work on Phoenix
Now anyone looking at this who gets the impression that only a small group of people, have all the fun of working on these projects and that it is a closed shop: please think again and feel free to come and join us on Pheonix we would be grateful for more active members.
Work party organiser is John Edmonds:
or if problems contacting John, please talk to Jeff Barley at:
Over the weekend of the 10th/11th December Pheonix was wire brushed down and re blacked, a new anode fitted, and the cabin roof paint that had become somewhat rusty and scuffy over the years due to all sorts of items being thrown on to it, was stripped and taken back to the metal.
The general condition of the hull under the water line is good but some quite deep pitting has been found on the angled front plate that is usually below the water. No Anode is fitted to the front section of the hull as there is no place to put one without it being knocked off easily. We will have to monitor this plate to see if it gets any worse and explore the possiblity of putting an anode in this area of the hull.
And just in case a suitable plate of metal has already been sourced, captured and stored should we need to re-plate this section
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The engine in Phoenix in the eyes of many has never performed to its full potential, in the early years it would over heat easily, this was a result of the cooling vents being in the cabin step, the addition of a vent on the roof solved the problem.(fitted in 2003)
Recently the engine when it gets hot has started to smoke, at first it was only a small amount. But over time had become worse, but the smoke was not from the exhaust, but from the air cooling out let vent, indicating that diesal was leaking onto something hot in the engine.
The problem being that the engine being air cooled is shrouded in a metal jacket that makes quick inspection difficult. Latterly the drip tray below the engine suddenly became full of diesal, this galvanised us into doing something about the matter.
Pheonix was returned to the water on Friday , then the engine was stripped of its cooling jacket in an effort to find the problem.
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The job of removing the cooling ducting could only be done by the removal of part of the bulkhead alongside the engine to get at the fixing bolts.
The engine installation is very neat, the steps, to the cabin covering the unit to make the maximum use of the space and are easily removable. But the installation does make access to the engine difficult for anything more major than a service, neverless the steps, part of the side bulkhead and ducting were removed.
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Mean while on the Butty
Whenever the paint was required to dry on Pheonix, we would move over to the butty, finally empting her of all the rubbish.
The steel metal plates in the floor of the hold were lifted to reveal yet more silt and water. The condition of the hull continued to fill us with hope but the job of removing all of the silt and water would need to be completed until a final conclusion could be made.
So we continued to remove the silt from the hold cleaning her back to the metal finally wire brushing the metal and applying rust curing acid.
The metal floor plates are heavy, difficult to lift and rusty, so it was decided to dispense with them and go for a floor made up of wooden building shuttering sheets or planks.
This should give a cheaper alternative to new metal platess, that are easily lifted to maintain the base plates and or drain the hold to keep the bottom sound.
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Christmas 2005 came and went and on Friday 30th December 2005 the slip at Hawne pulled yet one more boat the butty, out of the water.
The metal plates had been removed but the rain and snow over the holiday had yet again filled her full of water. Once out of the water a quick inspection on a very cold, windy and wet day that cut short our endeavour's to work on her, did confirm that her hull was sound.
Her unusual design became apparent with plenty of fins or keels attached to both bow and stern, probably added to give her better straight line performance having being powered by an out board motor.
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The Work Too Shorten the boat
The logical place to shorten the hull would have been where the twin keels start as measured from the stern, however it would have made the lenght of the two boats well over 70ft.
So the front bulkhead of the outboard motor box appeared the next best place. This bulkhead did not go right across the boat the two pontoons either side of the engine box along with the space in front of the box to the rear bulkhead of the load area making a U shaped compartment.
When shorten it would require two plates of metal to be welded across the ends of the shorten pontoons to make the assembly water tight.
Cutting her here would form a floatation section at the stern of the boat as we had become concerned that the first thought of just cutting her at the rear load bulkhead would have made her stern heavy when loaded. A crude deck had been welded onto this section with holes in it, this would require replacing or at least tidying up.
Having looked at the hull out of the water and deciding on the course of action, work stopped, the job was costed so all the facts could be put before the council for full consideration. The fact that BW had not yet confirmed our ownership in writing, coupled with the slot on the slipway being required the following week by another boat was enough excuse for a rest..
The interior sections of the load area had been treated and blacked so if she filled with rain water she would be protected.
The upper deck sections would be cleaned up and blacked when she was back in the water, weather permitting.
On Friday 5th January 2006 the boat was put back into the water to await a future slot on the slip when all the shortening work would be started along with the blacking of the outer sections of the hull.
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Back in the water and an hour on an angled grinder loosened all of the welds on the rough deck plating just forward of the engine box. Once removed the bulkhead of the pontoons could be seen clearly, the carefully cut holes in the bulkhead would require plating to make the shorten boat watertight.
The general condition when revealed of the interior hold formed by the two bulkheads was rusty but sound.
With the lid to the engine box removed the sound construction of the vessel in the engine area was seen, pity we have to cut this section off after all the work that must have gone into the building of her.
So work continued to rust proof this area, and thoughts turned to the re decking of this area. The trianglur ends would be re plated, and a raised square box section frame formed in the center with a lid to both make the deck water tight and strenghten the two bulkheads.
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Work had continued to wire disc the interior surfaces of the load area and then black the same.
The Council met and formally approved the idea, so we started to sharpen the cutting tools.
The decks and gunwales were similarly treated and blacked, the hull suddenly began to look like a really practical piece of kit.
The floatation section at the stern was rust proofed and then blacked inside, metal being cut to form a hatch and new deck in this area.
A telephone call from BW stated that the invoice and papers making the boat ours was on the way, so we made plans to use the cutting tools.
Friday 27th January 2006 came and again the boat was pulled out of the water on the Hawne trolley, and no sooner had the wheels to the trolley stopped when the cutting torch wheeled by Tony Friar began to shorten the hull.
Firstly the rudder assembly was cut off, then the centre section of the stern giving access to between the pontoons
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With the centre removed Tony was able to cut through the inner section of the 1st pontoon and then cut across the deck to the top rubbing strake. He then disappeared into the pontoon blowing a hole towards the bottom of the outer hull.
Then from the outside a chalk line was drawn from the top cut to the blow hole, then the hull was cut from the outside.
As soon as the bottom rubbing strake was cut the wieght of the pontoon bent the bottom plate, enough for the plate to be cut from the inside.
All the time as Tony cut off bits that were able to be carried they were carted away, and when not doing this or taking a photograph, Jeff Barley pressure washed the front section of the hull ready for blacking.
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With the bottom plate cut the pontoon fell to the ground.
With the aid of chains, Tony's fork lift truck pull the section clear of the slip, lifted the pontoon and transported it to a skip brought in for the occasion.
After a break for coffee the second pontoon was attacked by cutting the inner engine box bulkhead.
In all of this action to cut the pontoons it was noted that the workmanship and quality of the steelwork and welding was of excellant quality. The tradesman who built the boat certainly put a lot of effort into the vessel, it was a pity it had to be shortened.
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Again the pontoon bent the bottom plate as the lower rubbing strake was cut, and again the bottom plate was finally cut from the inside.
The fork lift removed the section and it was carried off to the skip that was nearby on the car park at Coombeswood.
Whilst Tony used the cutting gear to cut to size the plates that would go over the two holes in the revealed bulkhead, Jeff cleaned off all of the paint and any rust from the area.
Again the newly revealed metal work was in first class condition and the boat should give years of service.
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The two new plates both of 10 mill thickness were tacked onto the now back of the boat. The edges to the flame cut section on the now new corners were round with a disc cutter before Tony spent time running continous welds all around the new plates making the hull once again watertight.
Both of the bollards that had been on the cut off section had been saved, were tidied up ready to be replaced on the new deck.
A frame work of angled metal was constructed to form the supports for a lid to a hatchway for the new deck.
This frame will also reinforce the bulkhead the structure to be completed by the addition of two trianglur plates welded to the frame and deck making the area watertight.
The light started to go so the team called it a day, having completed the main part of the job in just six hours.
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Saturday 28th January 2006 saw the bollards welded back on, and the triangular deck plates cut and welded into position. Brackets to attach rubber or similar push bumpers were welded to the stern of the boat along with reinforcing strips being attached to the stern corners.
The hull was then wire brushed down and the entire hull and new stern blacked.
Holes where cut into the up-stands of the old cabin so that the lorry straps could be attached and the remains of the old cabin front still in the load area cut out to make a uniform surface in the load area.
Over the week leading up to Friday 3rd February 2006 the bumpers were fitted to the stern and the hull given yet more coats of black
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Finished, after months of planning and wondering, the boat became a reality in just two days, with all of the creative work done by Tony.
Boat put back into the water on Friday 3rd February 2006 to await a maiden trip back to the Pumphouse, should be able to make the Clean-up at Walsall in March.
Wooden floor boards cut and fitted and then treated, the metal steps that had been on the side, removed then re-positioned and attached to the stern bulkhead. A simple wooden lid was made to cover the hatch on the deck of the new stern
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At Coombeswood the boat was strapped to the front of Hawne, she fits well. Taken for a short trip up the Dudley No 2, winding in the wide section by the old steel works and back to Hawne. These two boats go together well, Hawne has lots of power and easily pushes the butty, the whole combination steers well is very stable when unloaded, hopefully the same will be true when loaded and on Phoenix.
On Thursday 9th February 2006 the new boat pushed by Hawne made its way up the Dudley No 2, through the Netherton Tunnel onto the New Main Line into the Gower Branch.
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The crew from Coombeswood are much more early risers than us in the BCNS, have a boat that is very powerful and oh yes are speed merchants, as they reached Brades well before Phoenix. As we pulled up at the top lock we where met by the butty being bow hauled up the locks by Alf Danks.
After a few good humoured jibes as to where had we been, the crew of Hawne waved and turned her around and disappeared down the Gower at a fair rate of knots.
We then bow hauled the butty out of the top lock, attached Phoenix to her after backing into the lock and then set off towards Titford.
From the crew of Hawne they had had a good passage, Phoenix pushed the butty easily too, both boats went well, a few alterations will have to be made to the straps but nothing major.
As normal when passing through Oldbury we pasted shopping trolley's, pulled five out and christen the new boat with her first bit of rubbish.
Had a good trip up the locks, the lenght is just right, arrived at the Pump house and moored up on the Tatbank.
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So here we have it a practical boat that has years of work built into to its design. Conversely we have also adapted a boat that today has little historical value to most poeple, but does come from an era of waterways history not that long ago, but which is long gone. So we have probably conserved a bit of modern history
I wonder if the boatmen who worked the day boats and who had a hard physical life ever thought that the steel boxs they used every day would one day become historical monuments to a way of life.
Our little Dumb Flat is not very sexy, but her design was different and by saving her from the scrap, adapting her for a new purpose and recording the event we have followed the tradition that is the history of many of the old boats about today.
Maybe we have started the seeds of Dumb Flat Restoration Society, if one doesn't already exist?
My thanks to all who got involved in this project, especially to Tony Frair who made most of the idea work, and to Coombeswood Canal Trust at Hawne for giving us the facalities to do the practical work.
The whole set up at Hawne is unique, the people great, I cannot think of anywhere else on the system that the above project could have been achieved so quickly at the modest price it came in at.
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First Work party
The 2006 season of clean-ups started on 18th February when armed with the new push butty we christen the new boat by taking her along the Old Main line to the Engine Arm, winded and then stopped at every bridge hole on the way back to Titford.
Out of Brass House and Spon Lane bridges we pulled numerous shopping trollies, two motor bikes, various push bikes finishing with security fence panels. Top all of this with the normal floating rubbish we collected and we had a couple of good boats loads, so much so that when we arrived back at the Pumphouse the thought of emptying the boat by hand did not appeal
Too tired we left the boats full to be emptied another day. Apart from this, every thing is ready and working well, bring on the BCN Clean-up in March 2006.
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Must give the boat a name/or number: just a thought as most BCN boats just had numbers what about BCNS 2? with a replicia BCN plate riveted to the hull.
Another thought if any contractor working on the BCN canal corridor who requiries an unpowered boat to help in the contract or just a boat to transport equipment, or any organisation who wishes to deliver equipment etc by boat for promotional reasons, contact us and we will discuss the hiring of the above boat, we can deliver the boat/cargo to any canal side site. Any fees by way of donation (if any) will be ploughed back into the canals via the BCNS.
Work Boat Hire details
Further details on application:- BCNS will always use the boat for its own and other charitable groups requirements first, all other times open to hire:-Dimensions of boat: Overall lenght 31ft-9ins (9.6m)Load area 19ft by 6ft-3ins(5.80m by 1.9m).
Load area can easily be planked at gunwale hieght to create stable platform. Has lockable front storage area.
Contact for above at BCNS:
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